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I was wondering about something lately. At work there are a number of gay and straight men that I work along side with. Oddly enough, I find that a few of the straight men go regularly to gay bars and gay social events. I was wondering about this. Do you think these men are truly straight or bi-curious? Or, is there some other reason for straight men to want to socialize with gay men?
Azazeal
Azazeal
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Re: Straight Men Attend Gay Social Events?
Mon, July 6, 2009 - 6:11 PMSome straight guys like being in an environment where they're not competing with other guys for the attention of girls. -
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Mon, July 6, 2009 - 7:08 PMOr..., may be one day I'll be brave enough to ask ask a "straight guy," Why is a guy like you doing in a place like this? -
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Wed, July 8, 2009 - 5:35 PMThere are always a few folks in any given 'scene' who don't objectively fit in the scene, but I think it's good that they're there because they often provide contrast and fresh perspectives. -
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Wed, July 8, 2009 - 8:06 PMI agree. Sometimes though I think they're trying to get a rise out of people. The other year, I saw a straight couple making out right by the front door of a gay bar right in the Castro. For some reason, seeing a straight couple necking right by the front door to a popular gay bar to be rather offensive. I wasn't the only one either. People were definitely giving them a quite a disdainful stare. -
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Thu, July 9, 2009 - 9:13 AMA straight couple doing PDA in the door of a gay bar is almost provocation and not kosher!
I think there are some straight men who just love the company of gay men. I know it's weird and I don't understand it, but I've seen it.
Dear friends are in a gay triad. 2/3 live on land they work. Their number one assistant is a straight guy who totally loves them but isn't at all sexually attracted even though he wishes he were. We're all Fae or Billy except the straight boy and sex is liable to break out anywhere/anytime so he gets lots of opportunity to play and sees lots of hot gay sex. He's not tweaked by it but he's not turned on by it either.
When it comes to females, he's so totally shy it's funny but he's a great fuck with a big dick according to one of our girls friends who pushed hard enough to get past the shyness.
So I think he's more comfortable being non-sexual in a gay environment than in the meat market of the straight world.
Hugs,
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Re: Straight Men Attend Gay Social Events?
Thu, July 9, 2009 - 11:36 AMYeah, when I see hets doing PDA in places where the homo concentration is high I usually assume they're trying to overcompensate for some nervousness. But I'm not offended by it, anymore than me and my putative boyfriend making out in a straight bar should cause offense (other than an offense to Victorian propriety, hehe). I realize that's not reality in most places, but it's what I want reality to be. Now, if a group of 100 boys and girls came to a gay bar and staged a hetero kiss-in, I'd have to wonder as to the appropriateness. But a couple here and there, meh. I'm secure enough in my own self-identity to not be threatened by what other people do, in my face or not. So in a sense, I like it when I see a lone hetero couple making love in gay land, because it creates a context within which to see ourselves better, and perhaps, works as an invitation for us to do the same in straight land. And if they should happen to increase in concentration and 'take over' some spot or other, well, we'll just 'take over' another of their spots, or start something new. Better that way, keeps things exciting, bars especially.
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Re: Straight Men Attend Gay Social Events?
Thu, July 9, 2009 - 4:04 PMthe few truly straight guys that I know that hang out in queer or gay space do it for a number of reasons.
1) they like being in a situation where they aren't expected to be the one trying to pursue someone like straight guys are expected to start conversations with girls or buy the drinks etc
2) it is a big ego stroke to know that gay boys think they are cute and want to flirt with them.
3) they don't feel the same sense of competitiveness that they have hanging out with some straight guys.
4) they are friends with queer folks and it often easier to in a mixed group to be a queer friendly place than being queer in straight place
I think lots of gay boys assume that every straight boy who is a gay bar is "really" gay but some times a straight boy is just a straight boy. -
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Re: Straight Men Attend Gay Social Events?
Sat, July 11, 2009 - 9:16 PMI think wanting to be wanted is a big motivation. It feels good to be desired even if I'm not in the least interested.
I agree w/the previous post, that there are reasonS, not just A reason. and maybe some of them are gay, so what? Not many people are a perfect 0 or 10 on the kinsey scale.
I'm not sure why anyone would take offense at anyone making out.
Sounds like ghetto thinking to me. -
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Re: Straight Men Attend Gay Social Events?
Sat, July 11, 2009 - 9:27 PMGreetings,
thank you for your comments. It's not that the straight couple was making out that bothered me, it's where they were making out. For a straight couple to be making out "in front of a door way" to a gay bar is disturbing. It's very clear that they're attempting to shove their sexuality in my face. I think people at a straight wedding would be equally offended if a group of gay men went to their wedding and started waving the rainbow flags. Keep in mind, it's not that a straight couple were kissing, it's where they were kissing. -
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Re: Straight Men Attend Gay Social Events?
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 9:05 AMBeing outside a gay bar and being at a wedding are hardly analogous, nor are a couple making out analogous to a group of gay men waving rainbow flags.
Someone I know mentioned that at Pride she saw lots of straight people going for it with their sexuality. It's like the freedom of Pride made it free for everyone
And isn't that one of the gifts we offer our society at large... that it's ok to be free with your sexuality.
I also think it's dangerous to try to interpret intention ("It's very clear that they're attempting to shove their sexuality in my face.") You don't know what the sexuality of either of those people are, much less their intent.
I think the question is less why is this behavior bothersome and more why are you bothered by it.
Does it make you feel oppressed. "The straights have everything, why do they need MY space?"
I rather look at it more like here's a couple of straight (maybe) folks who are comfortable enough with us to be comfortable enough with themselves. Love prevails. win win. -
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Mon, July 13, 2009 - 11:29 AMgoog points all. -
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Mon, July 13, 2009 - 11:29 AMoops! good points
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Re: Straight Men Attend Gay Social Events?
Mon, July 13, 2009 - 6:56 PMSorry, I respectfully disagree. I'll tell you why. A dear friend of mine who is a bisexual and who recently graduated with his master degree in psychology also found the behavior clearly provocative.
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Re: Straight Men Attend Gay Social Events?
Tue, July 14, 2009 - 4:42 AMAs odd as this may sound, I sincerely hope that the world gravitates towards your perception and grows to embrace your level of acceptance. By the degree of agitation that the gay bar patrons were showing at the straight couple making out in front of their door way, it really would be nice that some day we could all co-exist where it wouldn't make such a difference. -
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Tue, July 14, 2009 - 7:56 AMWhen I'm in the throes of passions I have to shut the dog out of the room, as the dog will key in to the sexual energy and want to participate.
This does discriminate against the dog, but I am resolute. -
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Re: Straight Men Attend Gay Social Events?
Wed, July 15, 2009 - 12:54 PMguess it's ok as long as you're not doing it in front of the dog house!
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